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German postal cards 1910
#1

I dont know much about these and dont even know were I got them from But  more information please Thank you


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Hi Richard ... the first card in your stack is interesting. It's postal stationary from Württemberg, one of the German States that, for a time,  maintained its postal system after formation of the German Empire. The top of the card readss, Königreich Württemberg – Postkarte [Kingdom of Württemberg - Postcard]

The body of the card has pre-printed text that reads, An / in / Wohnung (Straße und Hausnummer). According to my Michel catalogue of German Postal Stationary, this matches the following Württemberg 1901 local-post card issue:

Michel P 43 – 2 Pf grau, bläulich (1901) “Geänderte Kartonfarbe.”

   

You can confirm this by looking at the card stock ... if this is the correct identification the stock should be slightly bluish.

Obviously, I can't tell this from your scan. Have a close look at the card stock or bring it to the next club meeting. Also, your scans are interesting. How do you do them, they seem to create a false colour image. I'm just curious about what scanner and software you use?

As for the rest of the item ... based on the CDS, it was mailed in Cannstatt (which is now part of Stuugart) to Stuttgard -- obviously a short distance away since the city has grown to incorporate the earlier town. It was sent and received on the same day - January 4, 1902. 

It was sent to a Dr. Schnaible and it was written in German in the old-style kurrent script. 

Your scan of the back of the card has a lower resolution than the front which makes it hard to read. At this resolution I can make out the dateline and the salutation. I can't read the signature. It's poor handwriting (signatures often are) but if you can send a higher resolution scan, I'll try. I'd also need a better scan to read the message. My guess is that it's a reminder about something. The back also has a blue oval [hand-stampHandwerkskammer – STUTTGART] and is from the local Chamber of Crafts. They handled apprenticeships, certification of journeymen, rosters of trades, fees, etc.

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The other two items in your original post are also Wũrttemberg postal cards. The lines through the indicium on the right side is because of a change in the postal rate. The old 2Pf indicium was 'cancelled' and a new 3Pf one was printed on the left side. 

Cheers, Hugh

PS - Würtemberg lost its postal autonomy in 1902 and all new postal stationary was replaced by Reich issued cards. Cannstatt officially became Bad Cannstatt in 1907.

Hugh MacDonald, Wolfe Island
Member: BNAPS. PHSC, Auxiliary Markings Club, Postal Stationary Society, British Postmark Society,
AMG Collectors Club, China Stamp Society, France and Colonies Philatelic Society
ArGe Deutsche Feldpost: 1914-1918 e.V.
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#3

Thank you yes all light blue cards the scanner has a mind of its own and changes the scan color some times.
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Hi Richard ... thanks for the higher resolution scan of the back of the 1902 card.

The handwriting is still a bit of a slog. That's not the fault of the scan this time, it's just a bit of a challenge to transcribe. The writer uses a very quick hand (a polite way of saying he writes fast and without too much care). As I mentioned in my last note, it's also not been written in the Latin script that Germany started using in the 1930s. It uses the older kurrent handwriting.

The signature is a bit clearer on this new scan but still difficult to read. It might be J. Reichert or possibly Reichett? My guess would be Reichert which is a common surname in Württemberg. 

My best guess as to the sense of it in English is ...

Cannstatt, 5 January 1902
Dear Sir,
I kindly ask you to process the registration for the Chamber of Crafts relating to the matter dated 20 September 1901. Please return the documents to me after processing. I would appreciate a brief reply. 
Respectfully, J. Reichert/Reichelt

Always a fun question ... handedness. While we can't be certain, it looks like the writer appears to have been right-handed. I base this on the consistent rightward slant on the letters and the final flourishes on some of the words. As a caveat though, some left-handed writers did train themselves to write with a right-handed slant in the early twentieth century when left-handedness was often discouraged. 

Cheers, Hugh

Hugh MacDonald, Wolfe Island
Member: BNAPS. PHSC, Auxiliary Markings Club, Postal Stationary Society, British Postmark Society,
AMG Collectors Club, China Stamp Society, France and Colonies Philatelic Society
ArGe Deutsche Feldpost: 1914-1918 e.V.
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#5

PhilaStempel.de - Database for stamps of all kinds ... I asked the experts about that card with the 2 cent only on it. It was a proper amount payed and I also asked about the B3 on it they directed me to this . Thanks Hugh.  Yes I can write with both hands if need be. Backwards maybe Klingon LOL
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Yes ... I'm familiar with it and use it all the time. It's a great resource. Thanks for sharing. 

If you're looking for other cool resources for European cancels ... here's one for France. 

https://marcophilie.org

If you can write with either hand, even if it looks like Klingon, you're doing better than me. I can only write with my right hand. However, since I'm left eye dominant, I've had to learn to shoot with my left hand. So, for example, I have a left handed bow and shoot arrows into the hay wheel in my yard with my right arm extended and pulling the strong with my left. I got used to it. But writing is another matter entirely (smile).

Regards, Hugh

Hugh MacDonald, Wolfe Island
Member: BNAPS. PHSC, Auxiliary Markings Club, Postal Stationary Society, British Postmark Society,
AMG Collectors Club, China Stamp Society, France and Colonies Philatelic Society
ArGe Deutsche Feldpost: 1914-1918 e.V.
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#7

I found this card today. Its addressed to the same town but the rate does not make sense. Was this rate upgraded? From 2 to 3?


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Hi Richard ... Your postcard has a 2Pf indicium and an additional 3Pf adhesive stamp. That's 5Pf in total. After the formation of the German Empire and the subsequent postal unification of the various German States, the domestic postcard rate was 5Pf. This rate was valid from July 1, 1875 to September 30, 1906. 

It looks to me like your postcard is a 2Pf postal stationary card issued by Wüttemberg in 1900 (MiNr. DP2 old style, MiNr. P23 in later catalogues). So, it needed an additional 3Pf stamp to bring it up to the required domestic postcard rate. 

I can't tell when it was posted from your scan. I can't see the date on the CDS. Have a look at the actual card. My guess is that it will be sometime between 1900 and 1906. 

Cheers, Hugh

Hugh MacDonald, Wolfe Island
Member: BNAPS. PHSC, Auxiliary Markings Club, Postal Stationary Society, British Postmark Society,
AMG Collectors Club, China Stamp Society, France and Colonies Philatelic Society
ArGe Deutsche Feldpost: 1914-1918 e.V.
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(20-11-2025, 01:09 AM)Hugh Wrote:  Hi Richard ... Your postcard has a 2Pf indicium and an additional 3Pf adhesive stamp. That's 5Pf in total. After the formation of the German Empire and the subsequent postal unification of the various German States, the domestic postcard rate was 5Pf. This rate was valid from July 1, 1875 to September 30, 1906. 

It looks to me like your postcard is a 2Pf postal stationary card issued by Wüttemberg in 1900 (MiNr. DP2 old style, MiNr. P23 in later catalogues). So, it needed an additional 3Pf stamp to bring it up to the required domestic postcard rate. 

I can't tell when it was posted from your scan. I can't see the date on the CDS. Have a look at the actual card. My guess is that it will be sometime between 1900 and 1906. 

Cheers, Hugh

The date of all the German postcards are 1901-02. The rate on one was 2ph for a short distance? So if this one required 5pf for a post card rate then the sort distance with only 2pf should have required 5 pf should it not to cover the required post card rate? Thanks in advance
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(20-11-2025, 01:09 AM)Hugh Wrote:  It looks to me like your postcard is a 2Pf postal stationary card issued by Wüttemberg in 1900 (MiNr. DP2 old style, MiNr. P23 in later catalogues). So, it needed an additional 3Pf stamp to bring it up to the required domestic postcard rate. 

I believe this is the same issue of postal card as the first post. Michel P41 if on white stock, P43 if on bluish stock. The issue is a special 2pfg discounted rate for "Ortsverkehr" (within the city) .  The first post in this thread showed a card that was posted from a suburb of Stuttgart to Stuttgart, so apparently qualified for the 2pfg rate.

Michel describes these as "Ermäßigung des Ortsportos" = Discount on local postage

The card with the additional 3pfg added needed the extra because it went between two cities and needed the 5pfg inter-city rate (Fernverkehr = distance rate).

Hugh: P23 was an 1876 issue that included a Coat of Arms at the top.

Roy

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